The New York Times has an Op-ed by Tom Segev. In it he postulates what may have happened if Israel had chosen not to 'conquer the Arab sections of the city as well as the West Bank.'
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Jerusalem
Forty years ago today, on the morning of June 5, 1967, Jordan launched an artillery attack on the Israeli part of Jerusalem. In reaction Israel conquered the Arab sections of the city as well as the West Bank.
History is full of “what ifs,” and responsible historians should not indulge in such speculation. But journalists may. What if Israel hadn’t taken East Jerusalem and the West Bank in the Six-Day War? Would the Palestinian situation have found some solution and Israel be living at least in relative peace with its neighbors? Would Islamic fundamentalism and terrorism have been avoided?
Perhaps. But the alternate history is not as outrageous or inconceivable as one might think. Leading Israeli policy planners had determined six months before the Six-Day War that capturing the West Bank would be bad for the country. Recently declassified Israeli government documents show that according to these policy planners, taking over the West Bank would weaken the relative strength of Israel’s Jewish majority, encourage Palestinian nationalism and ultimately lead to violent resistance.
These comprehensive political and strategic discussions began in November 1966 and concluded in January 1967. The participants were representatives of the Mossad, the Israel Defense Forces’ intelligence branch and the Foreign Ministry. The documents they prepared were approved by Prime Minister Levi Eshkol and the army’s chief of staff, Yitzhak Rabin, and therefore reflect Israel’s strategic thinking six months before the war.
There was general agreement that it would be to Israel’s advantage for King Hussein of Jordan, whose country controlled the West Bank, to remain in power: he had, in effect, accepted Israel’s existence, so Israel naturally had an interest in strengthening his regime.
Hussein was also endeavoring to unify the West Bank with the East Bank and was encouraging West Bank Palestinians to migrate to the east. Over the preceding 15 years, the number of Palestinians who had left the West Bank for the east had reached 200,000. Moreover, approximately 100,000 Palestinians had left Jordan altogether. Hussein’s effort to integrate Palestinians was “a positive phenomenon from Israel’s point of view,” concluded the final position paper that emerged from that winter’s discussions. Hussein was acting to eradicate the Palestinian question, and this was an excellent reason not to take the West Bank away from him.
But when Jordan attacked the Israeli part of Jerusalem on the first day of the conflict, all reason was forgotten. Jordan’s attack obviously called for some kind of retaliation — but striking back at the Jordanian Army did not require the conquest of the West Bank or East Jerusalem.
Records of the Israeli cabinet meeting where the scope of the retaliation was determined are now available. Amazingly they show that not one of the cabinet ministers ever asked why it was in the interest of Israel to control the Arab parts of Jerusalem. Israel was about to take over some of the holiest places in the Christian and the Muslim world, but no analysts were called in to offer the cabinet alternative ideas. No experts on international law were asked to brief the ministers on the legal implications of their pending decision.
The ministers obviously felt there was no need to raise these questions: the answer was as clear as only fantasy can be. Acting under the influence of the age-old dream of return to Zion as well as Israel’s spectacular victory over Egypt’s forces a few hours previously, the ministers decided with their hearts, not their heads, to take East Jerusalem.
Their emotions propelled the Israelis to act against their national interest. It may have been a series of threatening moves taken by Egypt, or it may have been the intoxication of victory, but in view of the results of the war there was indeed no justification for the panic that had preceded it, nor for the euphoria that took hold after it, which is what makes the story of Israel in 1967 so difficult to comprehend.
And of course once taken, East Jerusalem could not be given back. To the present day it remains the major obstacle for a settlement.
I belong to a generation of Israelis who slowly but surely came to believe in peace. We needed to believe in it. The years since the 1967 conflict led us from war to war, and from one mistake to another. When new hopes emerged, they were overcome by disappointments, and then forgotten. Still, we regarded the conquests of 1967 as temporary and were encouraged by the 1979 peace agreement between Israel and Egypt, under which Israel withdrew from Egyptian territory captured in 1967. We believed that peace with the Palestinians would follow.
But peace with the Palestinians has not come one inch closer. As a result more and more Israelis realize today that Israel gained absolutely nothing from the conquest of the Palestinian territories. Speculating again in hindsight — Israel may have been better off giving up the West Bank and East Jerusalem without peace than signing the 1994 peace agreement with Jordan while keeping these territories. Forty years of oppression and Palestinian terrorism, both extremely cruel, have undermined Israel’s Jewish and democratic foundations. With about 400,000 Israelis living in East Jerusalem and the West Bank and with extreme Islamism as a driving force among the Palestinians, the conflict has become infinitely more difficult to solve.
Hence young Israelis have good reason to look at my generation and say, “You blew it.” I suppose we did. In contrast to my generation, these young people no longer presume to know what should be done to solve the conflict; indeed they often no longer believe in peace. Many resort to cynical skepticism and fatalistic pessimism.
And yet — less idealistic and more pragmatic than people of my generation — young Israelis may also be more realistic than us. Their immediate challenge is conflict management, rather than futile efforts to formulate grand schemes of ultimate solutions to the conflict. With fewer hopes and lower expectations they just may be able to make life at least somewhat more livable for both Israelis and Palestinians. Given the present circumstances, that would be no small accomplishment.
Tom Segev, a columnist for the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, is the author, most recently, of “1967: Israel, the War and the Year That Transformed the Middle East.”
References: NYT: What if Israel Had Turned Back?Always FreshBagelblogger
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Tuesday, 5 June 2007
What if Israel Had Turned Back?
An invitation to discuss an Opinion.
Posted by Mr Bagel at Tuesday, June 05, 2007 14 comments
Labels: history, Israel, Israel Politics
Monday, 16 April 2007
Caring for G_d's Souls or rather the Vatican's assets?
What I found shocked me.
THE TREATMENT OF PRISONERS OF WAR
PRESENTED BY MYRON TAYLOR
TO HIS HOLINESS POPE PIUS
SEPTEMBER 1942
Your Holiness has doubtless noted the condemnation of the President and Secretary Hull of the inhuman treatment of prisoners of war, Catholics, Jewish and civilian populations, and the executions of hostages in all occupied countries.
It is today reported that the executions alone number two hundred thousand.
It is widely believed that Your word of condemnation would hearten all others who are working to save these thousands from suffering and death.
A statement that the war had unleashed in some places uncontrolled passions leading to atrocities that shock the conscience of mankind, it is considered, would be helpful.
Original document here:
Memorandum on the Treatment of POW
Myron Taylor September 1942 to His Holiness Pope Pius
(Myron Taylor was Personal Representative of the President of the United States to Pope Pius XII from 1939 -1950)
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"...if the Vatican City State or any of the basilicas, churches or pontifical buildings and institutions in Rome (and they are very numerous and of very great historical and artistic importance) were to be hit, the Holy See could not remain silent. Nor would it be well that, with cordial relations existing between the Holy See and England, anything should happen to modify or disturb them..." Pope Pius Sept 17 1941
' very numerous and of very great historical and artistic importance' were being burned to the ground in the occupied territories.
" ...Pacelli [Pius XII] arranged the infamous Vatican- Nazi Concordat in July, 1933, a treaty that allowed Catholic protection and privileges in Germany, in exchange for Catholic withdrawal from all social and political action."The sad fact is supporters of Pius within the Catholic Church like to infer that the reason why Pius was so silent was because of perceived repercussions that could also follow any pronouncement by him after the action of the Dutch Bishops initiative resulted in persecutions..
This defense is detailed in the Book Pius XII As He Really Was
Dr Peter Gumpel S.J. writes
"The action of the Dutch bishops had important repercussions. Pius XII had already prepared the text of a public protest against the persecution of the Jews. Shortly before this text was sent to L’Osservatore Romano, news reached him of the disastrous consequences of the Dutch bishops’ initiative. He concluded that public protests, far from alleviating the fate of the Jews, aggravated their persecution and he decided that he could not take the responsibility of his own intervention having similar and probably even much more serious consequences. Therefore he burnt the text he had prepared. The International Red Cross, the nascent World Council of Churches and other Christian Churches were fully aware of such consequences of vehement public protests and, like Pius XII, they wisely avoided them." [*]
Now that time has passed and a gulf has been bridged between Catholicism and Judaism,[Re: Vatican II], it is time for gestures of Honesty and true reconciliation.
The Issue of Pope Pius's potential canonisation must surely be addressed, by allowing full independent scholarly access to to the Papers of the period held in the Vatican's Archives.
I recommend the following further article:
AJC: Time to Clear the Air on Puis XII
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FDR Library: Memorandum on the treatment of POW, Myron Taylor September 1942
FDR Library: Minute For Intergovernmental Committee Sept 9 1942
FDR Library: Memorandum for the President Oct 21 1942
FDR Library: Memorandum Re Bombing Rome Given Myron Taylor, September 17, 1941 by His Holiness Pope Pius XII
Corizones.org : Personal Observations on Pius XII and the jews
[*] Ref: Of Quote:Christopher McGath; Corazones
AJC: Time to Clear the Air on Puis XII
Truman Presidential Museum and Library: The papers of Myron C. Taylor
Wikipedia: Francis Bacon
Art.com: Francis Bacon
Corazones: Pius XII and the Holocaust
Web Museum Paris: Velazquez: Pope Innocent X
Wikipedia: Study after Velazquez's Portrait of Pope Innocent X
Picture Credits:
Web Museum Paris: Francis Bacon After Velasquez's Portrait of Pope Innocent X
Animated Francis Bacon picture: Bagelblogger
Photograph from the National Archives: Scene inside Concentration Camp. [Here]

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Posted by Mr Bagel at Monday, April 16, 2007 1 comments
Labels: history, Holocaust History, Holocaust. History, Shoah, Vatican
Friday, 10 November 2006
The Fate of a family living in Munich before the start of WWII
On October 27 1938, Hitler struck against the Jews and expelled from Germany 18000 Jews who, although living in Germany since 1918, had been born in the former Polish provinces of the Russian Empire. Jacob, Friedl and his parents were despatched by train to Lvov. By the time the train arrived in Lvov the Poles had worked out an agreement with the Germans and this train returned to Germany. Oskar somehow managed to avoid being rounded up that day but his younger brother, Salo was not so fortunate. He was sent to Zbaszyn (pronounced Sponssin) where the Jews were held in appalling conditions.
I came across this exceptionally well produced web site, researching Kristallnacht and the opening of the new Munich Synagogue. It is an extremely well documented exploration of the destiny and fate of the members of one family.
Above Right: The synagogue in Reichenbachstrabe, Munich after Kristallnacht.
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Labels: history
Tuesday, 12 September 2006
Entebbe Terminal to be torn down.

The old terminal in Entebbe, where Israeli commandos in 1976 rescued Israeli hostages being held from an Air France flight, will be torn down today, Tuesday, officials in Entebbe reported on Monday.
A museum dedicated to that rescue and the hostages is expected to be built on the location.

1: Assault force aircraft halt, Mercedes-led convoy alights
2: Commandos leave convoy, run towards Old Terminal
3: Yonatan Netanyahu shot
4: Commandos clear main hall
5: Commandos clear side room
6: Commandos destroy Ugandan Migs
The mission, originally dubbed Operation Thunderbolt by the Israeli military, was renamed Operation Yonatan in honour of Netanyahu - elder brother of Binyamin Netanyahu, who was Israel's Prime Minister from 1996 to 1999.
The raid continues to be source of pride for the Israeli public, and many of the participants went on to high office in Israel's military and political establishment.
The 30th anniversary was recently marked in 2006.
Right: Jonathan (Yoni) Netanyahu 1946 - 1976

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Labels: history, IDF, Israel, Israel Politics